I think you should know that Tony has security clearance and spent many years working for the government as a software developer. What did he work on, you might ask? Well I asked, and the answer turned out to be "it's a secret." So the good news is that the glorious republic remains safe, the bad news is we couldn't talk about Project Omega, the Blockchain ML War Elephant Program. Fortunately, Tony was able to declassify some of his experiences with the different engineering cultures of government and enterprise.

We also discussed his ongoing journey at Amazon from senior developer to manager, while I went on a journey of my own, from having not nearly enough of Tony's Suntory Hibiki Whiskey in my bloodstream to slightly more than the right amount.